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		<title>By: Quiroswald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quiroswald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 08:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article. I am new in microstock and not very experienced in these issues. I uploaded a few pictures to many different agencies, so the prices are different. I think that&#039;s normal, and does not depend on me but on the microstock agency. However, I find the debate about selling the same picture as RF in one agency and as RM in other more relevant, because then the differences in prices are much higher. I have done that for my first &quot;test&quot; images but plan to be more selective in the future</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article. I am new in microstock and not very experienced in these issues. I uploaded a few pictures to many different agencies, so the prices are different. I think that&#8217;s normal, and does not depend on me but on the microstock agency. However, I find the debate about selling the same picture as RF in one agency and as RM in other more relevant, because then the differences in prices are much higher. I have done that for my first &#8220;test&#8221; images but plan to be more selective in the future</p>
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		<title>By: The Right Value for your Money &#171; Sean Locke Digital Imagery</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Right Value for your Money &#171; Sean Locke Digital Imagery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 19:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is sort of in response to a recent article by Lee Torrens called &#8220;Selling the Same Stock Photos at Different Prices&#8220;, as well as some discussion around the internet forums.  The base question is, &#8220;It is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is sort of in response to a recent article by Lee Torrens called &#8220;Selling the Same Stock Photos at Different Prices&#8220;, as well as some discussion around the internet forums.  The base question is, &#8220;It is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Hinds</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Hinds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I just think it is poor form and poor business to market an identical image at very different price points. It&#039;s not something I&#039;d be happy to explain to a client end user face to face, so although I rarely communicate with, let alone meet, most of the users of my images, it is how I base my decision. I may shoot similar images for different markets to try and cover all bases, but individual images/shoots are either one or the other. Just my take on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I just think it is poor form and poor business to market an identical image at very different price points. It&#8217;s not something I&#8217;d be happy to explain to a client end user face to face, so although I rarely communicate with, let alone meet, most of the users of my images, it is how I base my decision. I may shoot similar images for different markets to try and cover all bases, but individual images/shoots are either one or the other. Just my take on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 22:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim - you&#039;re a very smart buyer.  Some buyer&#039;s like Jim might be searching Dreamstime of iStock for our images, if they didn&#039;t see them on Alamy in the first place.  That&#039;s why as a seller, that doesn&#039;t bother me at all where the buyer decides to purchase the image.  If anything, having them on Alamy is just another outlet of exposure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim &#8211; you&#8217;re a very smart buyer.  Some buyer&#8217;s like Jim might be searching Dreamstime of iStock for our images, if they didn&#8217;t see them on Alamy in the first place.  That&#8217;s why as a seller, that doesn&#8217;t bother me at all where the buyer decides to purchase the image.  If anything, having them on Alamy is just another outlet of exposure.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim Pickerell: &quot;The idea that if a customer finds an image on one site that works for his project, and is within his budget, he will then spend time checking other sites to see if he can find it cheaper, is ridiculous. &quot;

Well I disagree. My company routinely uses alamy and other non-exclusive &quot;macro&quot; agencies. When we find suitable images, it is just a click or two extra effort to search iStockphoto or Dreamstime. Frequently, the photographer is using exactly the same title, so one search is all that is needed. In many cases, the same image is found on the microstock sites, so we will take those. If not, we&#039;ll stick with the alamy images. 

We are not under budget pressure, however, for the sake of a couple of clicks we can make good savings. 

I think it is not good practice for photographers when I think about the amount of money we would have paid but did not because the photographer chose to give us a cheap option. So long there are no switching barriers between &quot;macro&quot; and &quot;micro&quot; (ie no usage restrictions depending on which price), we will always take the micro image.

The next images on our shortlist (it is clear which one we will take):

http://tinyurl.com/bg4sst

http://tinyurl.com/d8cwjx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim Pickerell: &#8220;The idea that if a customer finds an image on one site that works for his project, and is within his budget, he will then spend time checking other sites to see if he can find it cheaper, is ridiculous. &#8221;</p>
<p>Well I disagree. My company routinely uses alamy and other non-exclusive &#8220;macro&#8221; agencies. When we find suitable images, it is just a click or two extra effort to search iStockphoto or Dreamstime. Frequently, the photographer is using exactly the same title, so one search is all that is needed. In many cases, the same image is found on the microstock sites, so we will take those. If not, we&#8217;ll stick with the alamy images. </p>
<p>We are not under budget pressure, however, for the sake of a couple of clicks we can make good savings. </p>
<p>I think it is not good practice for photographers when I think about the amount of money we would have paid but did not because the photographer chose to give us a cheap option. So long there are no switching barriers between &#8220;macro&#8221; and &#8220;micro&#8221; (ie no usage restrictions depending on which price), we will always take the micro image.</p>
<p>The next images on our shortlist (it is clear which one we will take):</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/bg4sst" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/bg4sst</a></p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/d8cwjx" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/d8cwjx</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 19:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I laughed out loud reading the bit where the microstock director complains that the practice devalues photographs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I laughed out loud reading the bit where the microstock director complains that the practice devalues photographs.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Torrens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee Torrens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 02:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this comment Jon, that&#039;s a super-clear explanation. 

-Lee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this comment Jon, that&#8217;s a super-clear explanation. </p>
<p>-Lee</p>
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		<title>By: Don Farrall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Farrall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 03:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don S,

The &quot;credit&quot; was generally a point of confusion, and mostly from microstockers who are sensitive about anything negative about microstock.  As a group microstockers are very ready to defend their model of choice. 

Non-microstockers are quick to quote very low per images sales of microstock: i.e. $.20  In reality, most (non subscription) sales are yielding the photographer a few dollars.  Still nothing, when compared to traditional sales, but to microstockers suggesting that they are only earning $.20 per sale represents &quot;fightiin words&quot;. 

In my opinion, in the end, what a photo will earn in it&#039;s lifetime, is what matters;  philosophical matters aside.  Generally (good) microstockers are able to get more images from a shoot accepted into some microstock outlets than they would be able to get in the traditional stock market.  For this reason they can accept a somewhat lower RPI.  They are also often selling through multiple outlets and that helps the tiny returns add up as well.  In the end, microstock images on average, won&#039;t earn anywhere near what we traditional stock shooters are used to earning from an accepted image, RM or RF.  But, it does work to a satisfaction level that keeps people happy to participate.  

Most microstock photographers only think about their earnings as a portfolio return.  I tend to think about the potential earnings form each new image that I produce, in that way I can judge how much I can invest in it&#039;s production.  In the world of traditional stock, I will  invest hundreds to earn thousands, this is not the world of microstock.  In microstock,  photograhers will invest $10 to earn $30.  It works if a photographer can keep the production costs very low, but that does limit what can be done. Sure there are exceptions. Many microstock photographers are pretty in the dark about how traditional RF and RM work, but to be fair, they have not had the opportunity to participate, and I think they are quick to criticize it because they have been excluded.

Thanks for adding the &quot;S&quot;

Don Farrall</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don S,</p>
<p>The &#8220;credit&#8221; was generally a point of confusion, and mostly from microstockers who are sensitive about anything negative about microstock.  As a group microstockers are very ready to defend their model of choice. </p>
<p>Non-microstockers are quick to quote very low per images sales of microstock: i.e. $.20  In reality, most (non subscription) sales are yielding the photographer a few dollars.  Still nothing, when compared to traditional sales, but to microstockers suggesting that they are only earning $.20 per sale represents &#8220;fightiin words&#8221;. </p>
<p>In my opinion, in the end, what a photo will earn in it&#8217;s lifetime, is what matters;  philosophical matters aside.  Generally (good) microstockers are able to get more images from a shoot accepted into some microstock outlets than they would be able to get in the traditional stock market.  For this reason they can accept a somewhat lower RPI.  They are also often selling through multiple outlets and that helps the tiny returns add up as well.  In the end, microstock images on average, won&#8217;t earn anywhere near what we traditional stock shooters are used to earning from an accepted image, RM or RF.  But, it does work to a satisfaction level that keeps people happy to participate.  </p>
<p>Most microstock photographers only think about their earnings as a portfolio return.  I tend to think about the potential earnings form each new image that I produce, in that way I can judge how much I can invest in it&#8217;s production.  In the world of traditional stock, I will  invest hundreds to earn thousands, this is not the world of microstock.  In microstock,  photograhers will invest $10 to earn $30.  It works if a photographer can keep the production costs very low, but that does limit what can be done. Sure there are exceptions. Many microstock photographers are pretty in the dark about how traditional RF and RM work, but to be fair, they have not had the opportunity to participate, and I think they are quick to criticize it because they have been excluded.</p>
<p>Thanks for adding the &#8220;S&#8221;</p>
<p>Don Farrall</p>
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		<title>By: Don S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 01:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apologies Don (Farrall), you&#039;re quite right. I rarely post here and hadn&#039;t considered the confusion my minimalist identity might cause. Was the &quot;credit&quot; favorable or otherwise?

One other thing bugging me. As someone who is not particularly fond of the micro-model, in my defense of trad RM I have often been shot down in flames by microstockers claiming that their images aren&#039;t sold off at 20 cents a pop, but are in fact selling for a higher fee through a micro than a trad once you price in the uses so that the terms of the licence agreement are in accord. That is to say, the trad RF terms are quite liberal, and to get the same useage from a micro you&#039;d have to pay a higher price. Were they talking a load of old tosh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies Don (Farrall), you&#8217;re quite right. I rarely post here and hadn&#8217;t considered the confusion my minimalist identity might cause. Was the &#8220;credit&#8221; favorable or otherwise?</p>
<p>One other thing bugging me. As someone who is not particularly fond of the micro-model, in my defense of trad RM I have often been shot down in flames by microstockers claiming that their images aren&#8217;t sold off at 20 cents a pop, but are in fact selling for a higher fee through a micro than a trad once you price in the uses so that the terms of the licence agreement are in accord. That is to say, the trad RF terms are quite liberal, and to get the same useage from a micro you&#8217;d have to pay a higher price. Were they talking a load of old tosh?</p>
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		<title>By: Don Farrall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Farrall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 14:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to be clear, poster &quot;Don&quot; is not Don Farrall.  would it be asking too much for poster &quot;Don&quot; to add a last name initial, or some other point of different identity.  I have been receiving &quot;credit&quot; for statements that are not mine.  Thanks,  Don Farrall</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to be clear, poster &#8220;Don&#8221; is not Don Farrall.  would it be asking too much for poster &#8220;Don&#8221; to add a last name initial, or some other point of different identity.  I have been receiving &#8220;credit&#8221; for statements that are not mine.  Thanks,  Don Farrall</p>
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