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		<title>By: Keith Tuomi</title>
		<link>http://www.microstockdiaries.com/zymmetrical.html/comment-page-1#comment-22000</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Tuomi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another, earlier one from Kodak:

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&amp;Sect2=HITOFF&amp;p=1&amp;u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&amp;r=29&amp;f=G&amp;l=50&amp;co1=AND&amp;d=PTXT&amp;s1=%22copy+space%22&amp;OS=%22copy+space%22&amp;RS=%22copy+space%22

&quot;It is often desirable to identify regions within an image which are suitable for the inclusion of text or figurative elements into the image. Such regions are known as open space, or alternatively, &lt;b&gt;copy space&lt;/b&gt;, empty space, or dead space. Open space is typically one or more completely bounded sub-regions of an image whose color and spatial properties appear visually uniform. These sub-region boundaries may have either a regular or irregular shape. Images with large regions of regular, low contrast, smooth texture qualities are desirable regions to place such textual or figurative elements. &lt;b&gt;An example use of open space would be in a photographic image used for the cover of a magazine, where the text used for the magazine title and description of feature articles must be placed in areas on the image where there exists a distinct absence of essential subject matter.&lt;/b&gt;

Open space can be characterized in terms of the spatial extent of the region, the location of the region relative to the entire image, and the dominant color and texture contained within the open space. Such characterizations are generally referred to as image metadata because such metadata is derived from the image. Specifically, the characterization of the extent, location, color and texture of the open space within an image is referred to as open space metadata.

Presently, the ability to detect and characterize open space in an image is a manual, subjective task which can produce limited results. It is a common practice to examine images with respect to their open space attributes in order to identify the proper image for a particular application. In the example of selecting an appropriate photographic image for the cover of a magazine, many images must be evaluated, not only for their open space attributes but also their content as appropriate for the magazine. A search of a very large image collection for images which meet the specific open space requirement, such as red regions across the upper 20% of the entire image, will produce only a limited number of candidate images from the collection due to the extensive, time consuming manual search required. Every image in the collection must be visually examined, even if it contains no open space whatsoever. Additionally, this entire process must be repeated for every open space search request.

The results of a manual search for images containing open space will be subjective, relying on the searcher&#039;s own mental concept of open space as it relates to the open space requirements set forth in the search request. The person requesting an image containing open space is not necessarily the person performing the search on the image collection. These two people may not share the same concept of open space as set forth in the search request, causing a mis-match in the open space search results. Additionally, each candidate image identified by manual inspection is equally weighted, with no quantitative ranking from best match of the search requirements to the worst match. These shortcomings may cause the search to produce results that may not identify adequate candidate images from the image collection even though they actually exist in the collection. Ideally, all images in the collection that meet a set of non-subjective open space criteria should be retrieved and presented to the user for review is some prescribed, non-subjective manner.

Therefore, there is a need for a method and system for objectively identifying and consistently characterizing the open space in images that avoids these problems. &quot;


I&#039;m sorry you blew $11K on a patent application, Kelly, but next time a bit more research would be prudent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another, earlier one from Kodak:</p>
<p><a href="http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&#038;Sect2=HITOFF&#038;p=1&#038;u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&#038;r=29&#038;f=G&#038;l=50&#038;co1=AND&#038;d=PTXT&#038;s1=%22copy+space%22&#038;OS=%22copy+space%22&#038;RS=%22copy+space%22" rel="nofollow">http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&#038;Sect2=HITOFF&#038;p=1&#038;u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&#038;r=29&#038;f=G&#038;l=50&#038;co1=AND&#038;d=PTXT&#038;s1=%22copy+space%22&#038;OS=%22copy+space%22&#038;RS=%22copy+space%22</a></p>
<p>&#8220;It is often desirable to identify regions within an image which are suitable for the inclusion of text or figurative elements into the image. Such regions are known as open space, or alternatively, <b>copy space</b>, empty space, or dead space. Open space is typically one or more completely bounded sub-regions of an image whose color and spatial properties appear visually uniform. These sub-region boundaries may have either a regular or irregular shape. Images with large regions of regular, low contrast, smooth texture qualities are desirable regions to place such textual or figurative elements. <b>An example use of open space would be in a photographic image used for the cover of a magazine, where the text used for the magazine title and description of feature articles must be placed in areas on the image where there exists a distinct absence of essential subject matter.</b></p>
<p>Open space can be characterized in terms of the spatial extent of the region, the location of the region relative to the entire image, and the dominant color and texture contained within the open space. Such characterizations are generally referred to as image metadata because such metadata is derived from the image. Specifically, the characterization of the extent, location, color and texture of the open space within an image is referred to as open space metadata.</p>
<p>Presently, the ability to detect and characterize open space in an image is a manual, subjective task which can produce limited results. It is a common practice to examine images with respect to their open space attributes in order to identify the proper image for a particular application. In the example of selecting an appropriate photographic image for the cover of a magazine, many images must be evaluated, not only for their open space attributes but also their content as appropriate for the magazine. A search of a very large image collection for images which meet the specific open space requirement, such as red regions across the upper 20% of the entire image, will produce only a limited number of candidate images from the collection due to the extensive, time consuming manual search required. Every image in the collection must be visually examined, even if it contains no open space whatsoever. Additionally, this entire process must be repeated for every open space search request.</p>
<p>The results of a manual search for images containing open space will be subjective, relying on the searcher&#8217;s own mental concept of open space as it relates to the open space requirements set forth in the search request. The person requesting an image containing open space is not necessarily the person performing the search on the image collection. These two people may not share the same concept of open space as set forth in the search request, causing a mis-match in the open space search results. Additionally, each candidate image identified by manual inspection is equally weighted, with no quantitative ranking from best match of the search requirements to the worst match. These shortcomings may cause the search to produce results that may not identify adequate candidate images from the image collection even though they actually exist in the collection. Ideally, all images in the collection that meet a set of non-subjective open space criteria should be retrieved and presented to the user for review is some prescribed, non-subjective manner.</p>
<p>Therefore, there is a need for a method and system for objectively identifying and consistently characterizing the open space in images that avoids these problems. &#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry you blew $11K on a patent application, Kelly, but next time a bit more research would be prudent.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Tuomi</title>
		<link>http://www.microstockdiaries.com/zymmetrical.html/comment-page-1#comment-21929</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Tuomi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kelly, I think the reason your patent-pending application for Copyspace is way past due for actual approval, is that Eastman-Kodak already has a patent for a much more mature description of &#039;your&#039; system (patent granted Sep.5 2000): 

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&amp;Sect2=HITOFF&amp;p=1&amp;u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&amp;r=25&amp;f=G&amp;l=50&amp;co1=AND&amp;d=PTXT&amp;s1=%22copy+space%22&amp;OS=%22copy+space%22&amp;RS=%22copy+space%22

Compared with your application (filed Oct 4 2006):

http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&amp;Sect2=HITOFF&amp;p=1&amp;u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&amp;r=23&amp;f=G&amp;l=50&amp;co1=AND&amp;d=PG01&amp;s1=&quot;copy+space&quot;&amp;OS=&quot;copy+space&quot;&amp;RS=&quot;copy+space&quot;

Also, I might add, the Rule of Thirds has been around for a while: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_thirds</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kelly, I think the reason your patent-pending application for Copyspace is way past due for actual approval, is that Eastman-Kodak already has a patent for a much more mature description of &#8216;your&#8217; system (patent granted Sep.5 2000): </p>
<p><a href="http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&#038;Sect2=HITOFF&#038;p=1&#038;u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&#038;r=25&#038;f=G&#038;l=50&#038;co1=AND&#038;d=PTXT&#038;s1=%22copy+space%22&#038;OS=%22copy+space%22&#038;RS=%22copy+space%22" rel="nofollow">http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&#038;Sect2=HITOFF&#038;p=1&#038;u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&#038;r=25&#038;f=G&#038;l=50&#038;co1=AND&#038;d=PTXT&#038;s1=%22copy+space%22&#038;OS=%22copy+space%22&#038;RS=%22copy+space%22</a></p>
<p>Compared with your application (filed Oct 4 2006):</p>
<p><a href="http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&#038;Sect2=HITOFF&#038;p=1&#038;u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&#038;r=23&#038;f=G&#038;l=50&#038;co1=AND&#038;d=PG01&#038;s1=" rel="nofollow">http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&#038;Sect2=HITOFF&#038;p=1&#038;u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&#038;r=23&#038;f=G&#038;l=50&#038;co1=AND&#038;d=PG01&#038;s1=</a>&#8220;copy+space&#8221;&amp;OS=&#8221;copy+space&#8221;&amp;RS=&#8221;copy+space&#8221;</p>
<p>Also, I might add, the Rule of Thirds has been around for a while: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_thirds" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_thirds</a></p>
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		<title>By: Keith Tuomi</title>
		<link>http://www.microstockdiaries.com/zymmetrical.html/comment-page-1#comment-16342</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Tuomi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kelly, an appropriate action may be to check out this story: 
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080528-patent-troll-sending-out-invoices-for-image-hyperlinks.html



For the people experiencing slowness: try connecting to the international portal closest to your location: If you are in Europe, try www.zymmetrical.de, www.zymmetrical.fr -   we serve our images (which usually make 90% of webpage loadtime) from servers located physically in either US or Europe. 

You should notice a dramatic speed improvement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kelly, an appropriate action may be to check out this story:<br />
<a href="http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080528-patent-troll-sending-out-invoices-for-image-hyperlinks.html" rel="nofollow">http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080528-patent-troll-sending-out-invoices-for-image-hyperlinks.html</a></p>
<p>For the people experiencing slowness: try connecting to the international portal closest to your location: If you are in Europe, try <a href="http://www.zymmetrical.de" rel="nofollow">http://www.zymmetrical.de</a>, <a href="http://www.zymmetrical.fr" rel="nofollow">http://www.zymmetrical.fr</a> &#8211;   we serve our images (which usually make 90% of webpage loadtime) from servers located physically in either US or Europe. </p>
<p>You should notice a dramatic speed improvement.</p>
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		<title>By: hohohoho</title>
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		<dc:creator>hohohoho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve tried this stock. It&#039;s a very slow site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve tried this stock. It&#8217;s a very slow site.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Thompson</title>
		<link>http://www.microstockdiaries.com/zymmetrical.html/comment-page-1#comment-16315</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Buyers can search for images with particular colors and copyspace availability, not dissimilar to facilities at iStockphoto&quot;

Thanks for pointing this out Lee. Since this is a patent-pending technology, we&#039;ll be taking the appropriate actions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Buyers can search for images with particular colors and copyspace availability, not dissimilar to facilities at iStockphoto&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks for pointing this out Lee. Since this is a patent-pending technology, we&#8217;ll be taking the appropriate actions.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikhail Lavrenov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikhail Lavrenov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not going to bother either. Doubtful business model; slow site and no sales... Stays at the bottom of my list next to mostphotos. 

Talking about new sites I have better hopes for YAYmicro - this autumn should show if they are capable to take off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not going to bother either. Doubtful business model; slow site and no sales&#8230; Stays at the bottom of my list next to mostphotos. </p>
<p>Talking about new sites I have better hopes for YAYmicro &#8211; this autumn should show if they are capable to take off.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not going to bother.

I learned my lesson with LO.  no point in wasting my time with 3rd tier sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not going to bother.</p>
<p>I learned my lesson with LO.  no point in wasting my time with 3rd tier sites.</p>
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